tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post4188742710890669004..comments2024-03-12T12:06:53.187-07:00Comments on Doing Magick: Christianity and GDRoberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10144040453666802786noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-22528885303417253112010-05-29T13:32:25.901-07:002010-05-29T13:32:25.901-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Qabalierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12468095077576303673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-63109623542653216052010-05-29T13:17:37.446-07:002010-05-29T13:17:37.446-07:00Qabalier gets the the bonus point. Twenty thousand...Qabalier gets the the bonus point. Twenty thousand more and he can turn them in for a new set of dishes.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144040453666802786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-22012791442711493682010-05-28T08:30:07.775-07:002010-05-28T08:30:07.775-07:00A lot of people have had the same type of argument...A lot of people have had the same type of argument. I was raised and was an active Jehovahs Witness till I was 30 so exploring this side of the mysteries has been challenging. For me, these type of conflicts gave me a sarcastic passion that was invaluable in its own way. I had to come to some sort of terms with it because of using YHWH or crosses or spirits or else I was denying myself some of the energy to be raised. The post reminds me of "The Invention of the Lie" movie. It showed in a rediculous way what the world would have been like if the Satan/lie mythos wouldnt have happened. I think it was a great post.simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-33146409378984200222010-05-28T07:31:15.807-07:002010-05-28T07:31:15.807-07:00I left the Church for similar reasons - I don'...I left the Church for similar reasons - I don't find value with the concept of sin (particularly orginal) as well as belief in immanent deity. I would add to that list that I think the teaching on sexuality are abusive and immoral, particularly as applied to gay and lesbians as well as the Catholic attitudes towards birth control.<br /><br />In addition, the failures of the modern institutions are a big issue for me as well. I'm not a fan of Nietzsche, but <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/after_religion_fizzles_were_stuck_with_nietzsche_20100510/" rel="nofollow">this article expresses some of my thoughts on this issue</a>.<br /><br />All religions are big tent with diversity within it. For me, I looked around at the tent of Christianity and thought the good outweighed the bad. So I got out from beneath the tent entirely.<br /><br />I have my issues with the big tent of Paganism too, but so far it has been a better fit for me.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-2882066836152939562010-05-27T22:57:10.650-07:002010-05-27T22:57:10.650-07:00Care Fr POS,
thank you for your post here. I am e...Care Fr POS,<br /><br />thank you for your post here. I am especially impressed with your final statements; being open to changing your viewpoint on Christianity and by implication, all your views. I hope I am as open. <br /><br />I do not wish to 'rip' you up at all, but I was genuinely confused at much of this post. By the title and the introduction I was expecting a critique or exploration of the esoteric Christian traditions within the Golden Dawn. Instead you gave us a nice and colourful diatribe against the basest and immature exoteric expressions of Christianity that plague our world today. Your points here are obviously not without solid foundation but have (and are daily) being said a thousand times before. As a working out of your own views this is wonderful (and is partly what a blog is for); as an answer to the questions raised, I am not sure they cut the mustard.<br /><br />The esoteric traditions of Christianity are very different to the exoteric manifestations. These esoteric traditions are the ground from which the RR et AC and the GD arose. The core rituals, practices, wisdom and texts that were inherited by the GD/RR et AC were written (or translated) by Christians for Christians, all be they heterodox Christians. We cannot escape this simple fact. Nor can we forget that the only extant surviving mystery traditions in the west are Christian or Jewish or based on the esoteric aspects of these two religions. By the Enlightenment all the pagan mysteries were either suppressed, transformed into Christian versions or had simply withered away. Of course there have been some wonderful recent attempts to reinstate the Pagan mysteries, but these are reconstructions not a continuation of tradition. <br /><br />The Christian mysteries infuse and are interwoven within the RR et AC to such a degree they are inseparable. This does not mean one needs to be ‘a Christian’ to be a member of the RR et AC. But it does mean one needs to approach, enter and commune with the Christian mysteries FAR MORE deeply than the special occasion and Sunday Christians themselves. Otherwise the deeper blessings of the RR et AC and the One will elude us entirely. It is just the way the tradition has been created. <br /><br />Thank you again for this post. :)Peregrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508191641503321789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3889529596531127755.post-59244425042502157192010-05-27T22:54:03.911-07:002010-05-27T22:54:03.911-07:00Ronnie James DioRonnie James DioQabalierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12468095077576303673noreply@blogger.com